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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Ford CTO Ken Washington

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 April 2019

⏱️ 65 minutes

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Summary

Ford CTO Ken Washington talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about AI and autonomous vehicles in this live interview recorded at the Studio Theatre in Washington, DC. In this episode: The current state of autonomous vehicles; where Ford is testing its self-driving cars and why it picked those cities; 3-D printing and other AI-enabled engineering tools; mapping the whole world, again; Ford’s history in self-driving and the DARPA challenge; the difference between a human car collision and an AI one; when will we see the first fully self-driving cars?; is Ford still a "car company?"; the medium- and long-term vision of AI-enabled vehicles; how AI could fix wrinkly seats (and make driving safer); the creepy side of AI; data privacy and ethics; how Ford works with the big tech companies getting into the car business; the weirdest, scariest, and coolest things Washington has seen from AI; the cool side of deepfakes; hovercrafts, VTOL vehicles and scooters; the impact of self-driving cars on jobs; and equity of access to self-driving cars. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:23.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Reco.

0:25.4

You may know me as someone who drives around San Francisco like Steve McQueen, but in my

0:28.9

spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Reco Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:33.8

Today in the red chair is Ken Washington, the CTO of Ford Motor Company.

0:37.8

He's also the company's vice president of research and advanced engineering.

0:41.8

Washington says that anything we're going to call a self-driving car has to have a 3D

0:46.0

map of its environment everywhere it goes.

0:48.9

This is a map that's developed by driving the space with an autonomous vehicle.

0:54.5

If you don't have that part of the map, you're relying on in real time detecting everything

0:59.9

that might happen and that's just too hard of a problem.

1:03.1

We also talked about privacy and ethical considerations around self-driving cars and all the data

1:07.9

about their drivers that they might collect.

1:10.4

You can choose what kind of activity you want to do in your own car because it's your

1:14.1

car.

1:15.1

Right.

1:16.1

If you've given us access to that data because we're going to offer you some service, we

1:21.4

have the responsibility to not share that with other people or use it for any other purpose.

1:27.5

If you're going to work with us, we have to agree how you're going to treat the data

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