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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Fair Fight Action founder Stacey Abrams and CEO Lauren Groh-Wargo (Live at Code 2019)

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 21 June 2019

⏱️ 54 minutes

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Summary

Georgia politician Stacey Abrams and her former campaign manager Lauren Groh-Wargo, now the co-founders of Fair Fight Action, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher and Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference. In this episode: Abrams’ campaign for governor and what Fair Fight does; how Abrams defines the importance of voting rights; is America a democracy? “Yes, but…”; why Abrams doesn’t use the term “stolen election”; the Republican Party’s voter suppression habits; the problem with companies boycotting Georgia over anti-abortion laws; why “Georgia is the future” of America; the future of elections and how politicians should approach them; will Abrams run for anything in 2020?; identity politics and diversity in the Democratic Party; how has tech impacted politics?; why regulation is not a punishment; and the fallacy of Democrats abandoning the “center”. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage, hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.8

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:19.8

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large at Reco.

0:25.4

You may know me as someone who would run for president just to prove that I'm more

0:28.4

popular than Bill de Blasio, but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening

0:32.7

to Reco Decode from the Box Media Podcast Network.

0:36.0

Today we're going to play an interview from this year's Code Conference.

0:39.2

As reclined and I interviewed politician Stacey Abrams and Fairfights CEO Lauren Grohwargo.

0:45.6

As you probably know, Abrams ran for governor of Georgia last year, losing to sitting Secretary

0:50.7

of State Brian Kemp.

0:52.6

The election was very close and deeply controversial, and even though she was suspicious of the outcome,

0:57.9

Abrams said she refuses to use the term stolen election.

1:01.7

The minute it becomes about me or a single election, we miss the point.

1:06.4

This is about whether voters' voices can be heard.

1:09.0

It's about whether citizens are allowed to be voters.

1:12.0

And the moment it becomes about a single politician, if you like the politician, it's good, if

1:15.8

you dislike the politician, it's a non-issue.

1:18.3

This is about our democracy and that's got to constantly be the return.

1:22.5

You can find full coverage of this interview and everything else from the Code Conference

1:25.8

at box.com slash recode.

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