Recode Decode: Ezra Klein and Kara Swisher on the future of journalism

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 December 2018

⏱️ 90 minutes

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Summary

Vox.com founder and editor-at-large Ezra Klein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the press, social media and President Trump in this live interview recorded in San Francisco. In this episode: (03:22) Why Ezra moved to DC; (07:22) Klein’s background and the “incestuous” Twitter culture of political journalists; (11:38) Media culture in the Trump era; (13:15) How DC has changed and “docile” journalists; (21:55) Ezra’s thesis about tech, media and Trump; (27:06) Media manipulation and the speed of journalism; (36:47) Ezra and Kara’s podcasts and how they report stories; (43:20) Social media and the decline of scoops; (49:22) Hot takes and the overabundance of political opinions; (58:57) The process of the news vs. the product and the future of local news; (1:05:06) Young journalists “training up” from the statehouse; (1:08:43) Bias in media, false equivalency and letting Trump control the story; (1:12:22) How journalists decide newsworthiness; (1:16:33) The pressure to cover trashy stories; (1:19:21) What is the purpose of political journalists now?; (1:22:39) Why Kara doesn’t care what people think of her; (1:24:12) Donald Trump’s tweets and the future of politics; (1:29:54) Ezra’s favorite journalism business model Notes from our sponsors:LEGO: In today's show you heard advertising content from The LEGO Store. With LEGO, every gift has a story. Start your story today at https://LEGO.build/Recode-Pop Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:26.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode. You may know me as a professional goadher,
0:38.0	but in my spare time I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:43.0	Today we're going to share a really fun conversation I had with Ezra Klein, the founder and editor-at-large of Vox.com,
0:49.0	and you'll understand the goat reference soon enough.
0:52.0	We spoke in front of a live audience at Manys in San Francisco about a wide range of things,
0:57.0	including the future of journalism, which is we'll see where that's going.
1:01.0	It was a really great conversation and a little preview of what it would be like to work with Ezra when Recode partners with Vox in the near future.
1:07.0	Take a listen.
1:09.0	So tonight's conversation is about the future of journalism.
1:13.0	A lot has changed in the field of journalism over the last 10 to 15 years,
1:17.0	and they're going to talk a little bit about what has changed, what's happening now,
1:22.0	and their perspective on the future.
1:24.0	And these are two people who are so qualified to talk about this very topic,
1:28.0	probably two of the most qualified people in the country.
1:31.0	So we're honored to have them here at the corner of 16th and fucking Valencia in San Francisco at my small business.
1:39.0	Real quick, the goal of Manys is to create a central place for people to become better informed and more involved citizens.
1:46.0	That's what this is about.
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