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Recode radio presents Recode Decode, hosted by Cara Swisher.

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Executive Editor of Recode, and you're listening to Recode Decode.

I'm the head of human resources at Amazon and the President of the Amholes Club, but in

my spare time I do some tech reporting.

If you think technology is too confusing, if you think the industry is strange, good.

So do we.

Today's guest in the red chair is Erica Baker, an engineer at Slack.

Though you might know Erica better because of what she did at her old company.

When Erica worked for Google, she made a spreadsheet for employees to enter their salaries

to see how they stacked up.

Thousands of employees gave their information, and when Erica tweeted about her experiment

last month, the whole tech industry paid attention.

Now let's hear what Erica has to say about the whole experience.

Welcome, Erica.

Hi, Cara, thanks for having me.

No problem.

I'm super excited to have you.

I have lots of guests, but I'm very excited to have this conversation because I think

what you did was remarkable, actually.

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