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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: EFF boss Cindy Cohn and McSweeney's editor Claire Boyle

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 19 January 2019

⏱️ 62 minutes

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Summary

Cindy Cohn, the executive director of the Electronic Frontier Foundation, and Claire Boyle, the managing editor of McSweeney's Quarterly Concern, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about a special nonfiction issue the two organizations teamed up to produce, "The End of Trust." In this episode: Why the EFF and McSweeney's decided to work together; have consumers given up on having privacy?; why "Facebook doesn't really have users or customers, they have hostages"; the current copyright battles in Europe; why the ability of AI to play chess says little about the usefulness of AI in general; surveillance that doesn't seem malevolent and the privilege of "I have nothing to hide"; China's "bonkers" social scoring system; the history of the internet and how things got screwed up; how to unscrew it; will Congress make a move on tech when the shutdown ends?; the importance of Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Support for this podcast comes from Unisys.

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0:05.5

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With the growing network of public charging stations,

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or do whatever you want to be doing with your time.

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1:06.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode.

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