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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Dan Pfeiffer

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 4 March 2020

⏱️ 51 minutes

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Summary

Pod Save America co-host and former Obama advisor Dan Pfeiffer talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Un-Trumping America: A Plan to Make America a Democracy Again, why Bernie Sanders owes a lot to Michael Bloomberg, and why Trump is the new normal for the right wing. In the new book, Pfeiffer explains how Democrats can defeat President Trump at the ballot box in November, but says doing that isn't enough because of what the broader Republican Party has become. Plus: Why the Obama administration didn't act on Big Tech. Featuring: Dan Pfeiffer, co-host of Pod Save America and author, Un-Trumping America: A Plan to Make America a Democracy Again Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-Large of Recode. You may know me as Donald Trump's skincare consultant. He looks good to me, but then again, I'm always wearing shades.

1:23.0

But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to Recode D-code, a podcast about power change and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:31.0

Today in the red chair is Dan Feifer, the co-host of the Crooked Media Podcast, PodSaves America and former senior advisor to President Obama.

1:40.0

He's also the author of a new book called Untrumping America, a plan to make America a democracy again.

1:44.0

And he explains how Democrats can defeat President Trump at the ballot box in November.

1:48.0

But he says only doing that won't fix a much larger problem, the broader Republican party, and what it is doing to democracy.

1:55.0

Dan, welcome to Recode D-code.

1:57.0

Thanks for having me.

1:58.0

Thank you for being here. So we're recording this a day before Super Tuesday. And what a day! Today is like a perfect day.

2:03.0

I mean, Mayor Pete leaves, Amy Klobuchar leaves. Everything is like moving very quickly in this race right now.

2:10.0

And it's quite early on, and I would say early on in the process, maybe not from your perspective.

2:15.0

I want to get your book, but I want to get your take on what's happening today. What's going on?

2:19.0

I think the narrow paths of the candidates are making it very clear that it became, I think, clear based on how Joe Biden did in South Carolina.

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