Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.2 • 3.4K Ratings

🗓️ 26 May 2018

⏱️ 55 minutes

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U.S. Representative Ro Khanna, D-Calif., talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his proposal for an "internet bill of rights" to protect consumers' privacy, security and ability to move or delete their data. Khanna represents California's 17th district, which includes the headquarters of tech giants Apple and Google, and he says he's lobbying leaders like Apple CEO Tim Cook and Google CEO Sundar Pichai to publicly endorse these new regulations. He argues that Silicon Valley needs to get out in front of privacy and related issues while it still has high approval ratings, embracing changes that won’t cost it much or threaten its businesses, rather than waiting for the tide of popular opinion to turn. Khanna also talks about Congress' failure to ask the right questions of Facebook CEO Mark Zuckerberg when he testified about the Cambridge Analytica scandal and why the E.U.'s new tech regulation GDPR is overkill and shouldn't be replicated in the U.S. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:19.6	Hi, I'm Kaira Swisher, editor at large at Recode.
0:22.1	You may know me as someone who might run for Congress just so I can ask Mark Zuckerberg
0:25.6	for better questions the next time he testifies, but in my spare time I talk tech.
0:29.9	And you're listening to Recode Decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:33.7	Today in the red chair is Congressman Rokana who represents California's 17th congressional district,
0:39.0	which is the key one.
0:40.3	He's been on the show before, but I wanted to have him back on to talk about a project he's working on
0:44.7	called the Internet Bill of Rights.
0:47.4	And everything else that's going on in Washington right now, Congressman, welcome back to Recode Decode.
0:51.6	Great to be on. The Congress could have used you for questioning.
0:53.9	Yes, I could have. I was like, I sat, you don't know, I was screaming at the television.
0:56.9	It was like I was watching like Game of Thrones or something.
0:59.4	It was an astonishing display of idiocy. I don't know.
1:03.0	Well, I think the country started out by thinking, well, Facebook has really done something wrong.
1:08.1	And by the end of the hearing, the Congressman Mark Zuckerberg looks empathetic because it looked like
1:14.2	the Congress was totally out of touch. Right. Exactly.
1:16.7	And you know, you would never say if someone were to call LeBron James LeBron Jameson,
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