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Recode Decode: Chamath Palihapitiya

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 25 March 2020

⏱️ 67 minutes

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Summary

Social Capital CEO Chamath Palihapitiya talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how long it will take to recover from the coronavirus crisis, its impact on startups, and how the US government should and will react — including by tracking individuals via their technology and repatriating cash from tech companies like Apple. Palihapitiya says businesses should make sure they have at least 36 months worth of cash on hand to weather this recession and its slow recovery period and predicts the US will need to devote an entire year's GDP to combat covid-19. He criticizes the corporate "shenanigans" that will make economic recovery harder says he's done investing for at least nine months, because anyone trying to do deals now will be "decapitated." Plus: What we can all learn right now from the histories of the Great Depression and the 2008 financial crisis, and which industries will come out of this crisis stronger than before? Previously: Palihapitiya last appeared on Recode Decode in March 2019: "People in Silicon Valley are deeply unhappy" Featuring: Chamath Palihapitiya (@chamath), CEO of Social Capital Host: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: On Reset, Arielle Duhaime-Ross explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. On Recode Media, Peter Kafka interviews business titans, journalists, comedians and podcasters about the collision of tech and media. On Pivot, Kara Swisher and Scott Galloway talk about the big tech news stories of the week, who's winning, who's failing, and what comes next. And on Land of the Giants, Jason Del Rey chronicled the rise of Amazon. Season 2 will focus on Netflix and is coming soon! About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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1:24.6

to RICOD decode, a podcast about power change, the people you need to know, we're part of the Vox Media Podcast Network. Today, joining us remotely from where are you, Chumath? This is Chimoth Polly Hopatia, who is one of my favorite guests. Where are you, where you, where you? Palo Alto. He's the founder and CEO of the venture capital firm's social capital. Chimoth was also an executive at Facebook between 2007 and 2011, but I've known him since he was at AOL when he was just a little puppy entrepreneur. Before that, I wanted to have him back on the show to talk about how the coronavirus pandemic is affecting global economy and startups in particular as well as Wall Street. Chamath, welcome back to Recode Decode.

2:01.9

Thanks, Kara. How are you?

2:18.4

Good. How are you doing? You've had... I haven't seen you in a while. I haven't talked to you in a while. It's been a year since we did that. Bitcoin last time. Bitcoin. No, we talked about mental health a year ago. It was one of your most popular podcast. That's right. That's right. I always like to have you on. People really enjoy listening to your thoughts. Kara, I'm the only person you've done podcasts with where I've been in the top ten. It's true. Above the above the above like the word. Two. I've done two in the top ten. You have. You have. You have 100%. You are the best. And hopefully this one will get into the top But listen to me, talk to me about the landscape out there. What are you doing? First of all, let's check in on Chimoth.

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