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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Bill Kristol

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 28 October 2019

⏱️ 63 minutes

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Summary

Conservative analyst Bill Kristol talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the impeachment effort against President Trump, how politics has entered a "crisis of truth" in the era of Fox News and social media, and the steps that should be taken pre-emptively to ensure that the 2020 elections are free and fair. Kristol also predicts that Trump could be "impeached by Thanksgiving," and explains why he doesn't think "Trumpism" goes away even if its namesake does, outlining one scenario for future elections that would be even worse for American political stability than today's circumstances. Plus: Why we should be talking more about China's technological prowess and why Kristol would "prefer if the Republican Party could be saved, but I'm not sure it can be." Featuring: Bill Kristol (@billkristol), director of Defending Democracy Together and host of Conversations with Bill Kristol Hosts: Kara Swisher (@karaswisher), Recode co-founder and editor-at-large More to explore: Subscribe for free to Reset, Recode's new podcast that explores why — and how — tech is changing everything. About Recode by Vox: Recode by Vox helps you understand how tech is changing the world — and changing us. Follow Us: Newsletter: Recode Daily Twitter: @Recode and @voxdotcom Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.

0:03.6

You may know me as someone who just wants President Trump to please give us a week without

0:07.2

breaking anything.

0:08.2

Okay, that's hot to ask, maybe an hour, but in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and

0:12.0

you're listening to Recode Deco, a podcast about power change and the people you need to

0:16.0

know around the tech industry were part of the Vox Media Podcast Network.

0:20.3

Today in the red chair is Bill Crystal, a political analyst who was the founder of the Political

0:24.1

Magazine Weekly Standard, which closed last year.

0:27.2

He was one of the key thinkers among Republicans during the George W. Bush administration, but

0:30.9

has been critical of President Trump and is the director of an organization for anti-Trump

0:34.7

Republicans called Defending Democracy Together.

0:37.3

Bill, welcome to Recode Deco.

0:39.4

Thanks, Cara.

0:40.4

Can we talk about technology?

0:41.4

Yes, I'd love to.

0:42.4

I love to.

0:43.4

You know?

0:44.4

People are going to medical advances.

0:45.4

Yeah, we will do that, but Trump is very technical.

0:47.4

As opposed to Trump.

0:48.4

Well, he's used technology beautifully.

0:50.4

I like speaking of Trump.

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