Recode Decode: 'Big Game' author Mark Leibovich

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Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.3 • 3.2K Ratings

🗓️ 10 September 2018

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Mark Leibovich, the chief national correspondent for The New York Times Magazine, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Big Game: The NFL in Dangerous Times." In this episode:02:07 - Leibovich’s short stint as a tech reporter04:06 - “This Town” and burning bridges in Washington06:00 - How he got into writing about the NFL 07:58 - The goal of reporting and writing “Big Game”10:12 - The fault lines emerging in America’s football addiction11:58 - Football will survive in spite of the owners18:47 - Why these are “dangerous times” for the NFL19:52 - Donald Trump’s football dreams21:55 - “The kneeling thing”24:17 - The impact of Colin Kaepernick’s protests on the NFL27:22 - The other dangers to the league29:01 - Smarter helmets and cord-cutting37:18 - Robots playing football and other tech40:35 - Where does football go next?43:18 - Returning to politics and the “Trump swamp”45:51 - Working at the “failing New York Times” next to Maggie Haberman48:11 - Should we change the way we cover politics and sports?52:05 - Who does Leibovich love and hate in the NFL? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0	Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of Recode.
0:03.4	You may know me as a huge fan of football.
0:05.5	That's the one where everyone's carrying sticks, right?
0:08.0	But in my spare time, I talk tech
0:09.5	and you're listening to Recode Decode
0:10.8	from the Vox Media Podcast Network.
0:12.7	Today in the red chair is an old friend of mine, actually,
0:15.5	from the Washington Post, Mark Leibovitch.
0:17.0	He is the Chief National Correspondent
0:18.9	now for the New York Times magazine.
0:20.8	And he's author of a new book called Big Game,
0:23.1	The NFL Endangeless Times.
0:25.2	I am so thrilled to have you here.
0:26.8	I am so glad to be here.
0:28.2	And we have so much to talk about.
0:29.2	We have the side sports ball.
0:30.9	I do want to talk about the tech element
0:33.2	and everything else of it.
0:34.0	But I want to explain how you got to this.
0:35.8	And what's so interesting is that you had a piece
0:38.1	in New York Times just this weekend about the sort
0:41.2	of the conflagration between the NFL and the president.
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