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Recode Decode: Andrew Moore, dean of Carnegie Mellon's School of Computer Science

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Business, Technology

4.23.4K Ratings

🗓️ 18 August 2018

⏱️ 45 minutes

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Summary

Andrew Moore, the dean of the School of Computer Science at Carnegie Mellon University, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the future of tech education as fields like artificial intelligence and machine learning take center stage. Moore says he's "concerned" that anti-immigrant fervor will deter the next generation of great computer scientists from coming to America, although CMU has not yet seen an impact on its application numbers. He also talks about the often-forgotten importance of electrical and computer engineers, who will develop the sensors that make machine learning advance; how educational programs have been complicit in the lack of diversity in tech; and why he's personally pessimistic that self-driving cars, one of Carnegie Mellon's areas of expertise, will be ready by the early 2020s, as some have predicted. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:05.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief

0:10.7

second life and then was buried for good.

0:14.9

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:19.8

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor at Large of Recode.

0:25.2

You may know me as the second most irritating contributor to the New York Times, but watch

0:28.6

out Mike Isaac, I'm coming for you.

0:30.8

But in my spare time, I talk tech and you're listening to Recode Deco from the Vox Media

0:34.5

Podcast Network.

0:36.0

Today I'm delighted to have Andrew Moore on the podcast.

0:38.4

He's the Dean of Carnegie Mellon's School of Computer Science, which was ranked number

0:42.2

one in the world by US News and World Report, and he was previously a vice president of

0:46.5

engineering at Google where he was in charge of Google's shopping.

0:49.0

Andrew, welcome to Recode Deco.

0:50.7

Thanks for coming.

0:51.7

Happy to be here.

0:52.7

Thank you.

0:53.7

So let's talk.

0:54.7

I want to get your background.

0:55.7

I have had various computer scientists on the show and we're teaching and just like that.

0:58.0

And I love to get sort of the academic perspective, but you've been in the fray also.

1:02.6

So just let's give your background where you came from and how you got to Carnegie

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