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Decoder with Nilay Patel

Recode Decode: Amazon Web Services CEO Andy Jassy (Live at Code 2019)

Decoder with Nilay Patel

Vox Media Podcast Network

Technology, Business

4.33.2K Ratings

🗓️ 17 June 2019

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon's cloud computing service AWS, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference. In this episode: How Jassy came to work at Amazon 22 years ago; how Jeff Bezos has changed in that time; how AWS differentiates itself from the competition; could it be disrupted by a small business?; facial recognition, sensor creep, and trust; alleged misuse of Amazon’s facial recognition tech by law enforcement; its work with the government, and employee objections to that; should tech companies work with ICE and border patrol?; potential antitrust regulation and whether AWS should be spun off; Donald Trump’s Amazon-bashing obsession; the HQ2 contest; the challenges of running AWS, including diversity; does Jassy want to be CEO of Amazon?; and how does AWS's culture compare to Amazon’s? Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

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0:09.0

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0:17.0

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0:24.0

Sabotage hired goons and a landfill in Utah.

0:32.0

How Steve Jobs' revolutionary catastrophe of a computer, the Apple Lisa, earned a brief second life, and then was buried for good.

0:42.0

Watch the Verges documentary, Lisa's final act, now on YouTube.

0:48.0

Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large of ReCO.

0:52.0

You may know me as a person trying to fool facial recognition sensors with increasingly silly sunglasses, but in my spare time, I talk tech and you're listening to ReCO decode from the Vox Media Podcast Network.

1:03.0

Today we're going to play an interview from this year's Code Conference.

1:06.0

I talk to Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon Web Services, who has been at the company for 22 years.

1:12.0

We talked about how Jeff Bezos has changed in that time, whether AWS should be spun off as an independent company, and why Jassy says the government should regulate, but not ban, facial recognition tech.

1:23.0

What we have recommended to the government is that they put a constraint in place when law enforcement agencies are going to use facial recognition that they only use results that have at least a 99% confidence parameter, and then only as one element of a human driven decision, like one piece of evidence.

1:40.0

And then at the end of the day, like anything else, whether it's private sector companies or our police forces, you have to be accountable for your actions, you have to be held responsible if you misuse it.

1:50.0

You can find full coverage of this interview and everything else from the Code Conference at Vox.com slash ReCO.

1:56.0

But now let's go to the Phoenician Resort in Scottsdale, Arizona to hear my interview with AWS CEO Andy Jassy.

2:05.0

We're going to talk now with Andy Jassy from Amazon. Come on out.

2:08.0

When I got a shot talk about facial recognition, but since she just talked about this, I actually, I want to talk about your business first, and then I do want to get into that topic, because AWS has recognition, you just pay for your product.

2:22.0

And I do want to talk about that a little bit, but you've been at Amazon since you were a teenager.

2:27.0

You literally have been at 20 some years.

2:30.0

22 years.

2:31.0

22 years. You started as an assistant to Jeff or.

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