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Hi, I'm Cara Swisher, Editor-at-large recode. You may know me as someone who's looking for the silver lining in quarantine.

For example, I haven't had to make an awkward small talk with an Uber driver in two months.

But in my spare time, I'm just a reporter and you're listening to recode decode a podcast about power change and the people you need to know were part of the Vox Media podcast network.

Today in the red chair is Alex Cantruetz, a senior tech reporter at Buzzfeed News.

He's also the author of a recent book called Always Day One, How the Tech Titans Plan to Stay On Top Forever.

It's all about how Amazon, Facebook, Google, Apple and Microsoft constantly reinvent themselves because no competitive advantage lasts forever.

Alex, welcome to recode decode.

Thank you, Cara. I've been a long dedicated listener of this podcast from Thrill to Beyond Before, The Run-Ends.

All right, they're running. So let's talk a little bit about the concept of this because I've been writing a lot of columns in the times about this idea that tech will now not lose any of their advantage or because of the pandemic.

So let's talk a little bit about your look at the landscape right now for big tech and especially in light of some of the news from Uber and some others but at the same time from Amazon, from Congress, who were nervous Elizabeth Warren, Josh Halle and others.

Give a broader sense of the landscape of where these top tech companies are.

Well, during the pandemic, they all stand to become even more powerful, which to me is unbelievable.

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