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Reclaiming the Gospel of Jesus: Paul, Submission, Satan, and the Canon

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Voxology

Religion & Spirituality, Philosophy, Society & Culture

4.71K Ratings

🗓️ 4 May 2017

⏱️ 13 minutes

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Summary

Deep questions demand deep exploration, and this episode of Voxology tackles some of the biggest theological and cultural questions facing the modern church. Mike Erre and Andy field four thought-provoking listener questions—each one diving into misunderstood spiritual frameworks and their real-world implications on faith, marriage, evil, and Scripture.

We begin by reexamining the foundations of our faith, contrasting the gospel of Jesus with how we've inherited Paul’s theology through Western lenses like the Reformation. From there, we wrestle with the controversial language of submission in marriage in Ephesians 5, the nature of evil and why God hasn’t destroyed Satan, and finally, the mysterious process of biblical canonization and why some gospels didn’t make the cut.

Whether you're deconstructing, reconstructing, or just curious, this conversation offers a thoughtful roadmap back to the heart of Jesus's mission.

Key Takeaways:
• Reframing Faith Around Jesus – Why starting with the gospel of Jesus—not Paul—can lead to a more holistic and life-oriented faith.
• Revisiting Ephesians 5 – A deeper look at mutual submission in marriage, the radical call to sacrificial love, and misinterpretations that fuel patriarchy.
• The Problem of Evil and Human Freedom – Why God allows free will, even for Satan, and how it points to a grander divine project of human sanctification and cosmic governance.
• How the Bible Was Formed – The overlooked process of canonization, community validation, apostolic authorship, and why texts like the Gospel of Thomas were excluded.

Resources Mentioned:
• BibleProject (with Tim Mackie) – https://bibleproject.com
• Ephesians 5:21-33 – Mutual submission and Christlike love
• "Romans Road" – A traditional evangelistic outline using verses from Romans
• Tim Mackie’s website – https://timmackie.com (for Bible canon resources)

Let’s keep asking hard questions and re-centering on Jesus’s life, message, and mission. Subscribe to the show, leave a review, and find us on your favorite podcast platform and social media for more dialogue around faith that matters.

As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

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As always, we encourage and would love discussion as we pursue. Feel free to email in questions to [email protected], and to engage the conversation on Facebook and Instagram.

We're on YouTube (if you're into that kinda thing): VOXOLOGY TV.

Our Merch Store! ETSY

Learn more about the Voxology Podcast

Subscribe on iTunes or Spotify

Support the Voxology Podcast on Patreon

The Voxology Spotify channel can be found here: Voxology Radio

Follow us on Instagram: @voxologypodcast and "like" us on Facebook

Follow Mike on Twitter: www.twitter.com/mikeerre

Music in this episode by Timothy John Stafford

Instagram & Twitter: @GoneTimothy

Transcript

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0:00.0

All right, Facebook. We are live. Hello, live from Vox World headquarters, Brea, California. Mike and Andy here with potentially another set of unbelievable questions to wrestle through.

0:23.5

We just finished recording our podcast.

0:26.0

It comes out Monday.

0:27.9

And so part of this, we love just taking, we get questions all the time from folks.

0:34.1

So how many we got, Andy?

0:35.9

We got four.

0:40.3

Yep, we got four. You ready? Number one.

0:46.2

Yep. Here we go. Here we go. Hi, Mike. Hi. You spoke in a podcast recently about having a faith based on Paul versus having it built on Jesus and the gospel. Can you expound more on this and the implications of each?

0:53.3

Anytime someone uses the word expound, I'm in.

0:56.1

I expand. I expound. I expand. Yeah, I don't remember what context I was saying it, but it seems to me,

1:05.4

and this is my experience, not everybody, but it seems to me that when I first heard the message

1:10.3

of Jesus, it was through the words that when I first heard the message of Jesus it

1:11.4

was through the words of Paul and through like the Romans Road right the Romans

1:16.6

Road is a series of passages taken from the book of Romans things like you know

1:21.5

for all of sin and fallen short of the glory of God the wages of sin is death

1:27.1

the gift of God is eternal life.

1:29.3

If you confess with your mouth, Jesus is Lord and believe in your heart, then you will be saved.

1:35.3

So it's kind of the very classic biblical story.

1:39.3

It's like the bridge illustration or the four spiritual laws.

1:41.3

And if some of you were like, I don't even know what those things are. Okay. But it takes a slice of Paul. And so the idea is that we're sinful. God is

1:51.6

holy. Jesus takes our sin upon himself. We get credit for Jesus's obedience so that we now stand

1:59.1

righteously before God. This is called justification and double imputation that Jesus takes our sin.

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