Okay. Do you remember the seminar we did on the love like you mean it crews before

COVID for parents of adult children? Yes. Yeah. What do you remember about that? I remember

parents were scared. They had so many questions and there was a lot of guilt. And I remember

a lot of tears because we opened the mic and said, if you have a question, we're not

the experts, but we'd love to dialogue with you. And parent after parent, walk to the

mic and start crying about their children who had walked away from the face. Welcome to

Family Life today where we want to help you pursue the relationships that matter most.

I'm Ann Wilson. And I'm Dave Wilson and you can find us at FamilyLifeToday.com or on the Family

Life app. This is Family Life today. You know, as a Christian parent, you're just hoping you

did the right thing so that when your kids become teenagers and then adults and have their

own fan, they're going to continue the faith that you passed on to them. And when they don't,

it is, it is heartbreaking. There were tears from that. And we were crying listening to them

because we know that feeling. And so often we as parents blame ourselves. We're guilt-ridden.

We feel a lot of shame because we assume that it's our fault. Yeah. So we're going to talk

about that today. It's really the question of what can a parent do right to help pass

on their faith? And what shouldn't we do to avoid things like this? And we all know that's not

not all the parents, but we feel a heavy burden for that. So we got the right guy in the studio.

We've got John Marriott with us who's a parent who's written a book about this who studied this,

wrote your dissertation about deconversion or, you know, our children or anybody really walking

away from the faith. It's been years since you did your dissertation and you have, this has become

your life work, right? Just studying and understanding. And you're with students every day.

You're teaching philosophy at Biola. So you're probably hearing this stories from parents,

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