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This show is dedicated to helping you, strengthen your family tree and live financially free. Welcome to the Marriage Kids and Money podcast, everybody. This is Andy Hill.

And today we're talking about how to go from poverty to self-made

millionaire. Now, everyone loves a good success story. And man, do I have one for you today.

Patrick M.A. is my guest today. Patrick is a sales professional and real estate investor living in

San Diego with his wife, Kirsten.

Originally from Rwanda, Patrick made his way to the U.S., grew his wealth, battled adversity,

and eventually became a self-made millionaire. Today we're going to learn about his journey

so we can all thrive like he has. When Patrick isn't growing his wealth and staring at his spreadsheets, as he likes to say, he loves traveling the world with his wife and spending time with his family. Welcome to the show, Patrick. Thank you for having me on. Oh, Patrick, it's great to talk to you. I know we've been connected for a little while, and I'm so glad to hear your voice and interview you today. So talk to me about

Rwanda. Talk to me about what your childhood was like there and a little bit about your family

situation. Life was great growing up. My mother has 11 siblings and each one of my uncles and

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