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The Peter Schiff Show Podcast

Recession Hiding in Plain Sight – Ep. 146

The Peter Schiff Show Podcast

Peter Schiff

News, Business, Investing, Business News, Politics

4.65.9K Ratings

🗓️ 25 February 2016

⏱️ 26 minutes

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Summary


* We had some wild swing in the market today, particularly the stock market and the gold market
* At one point this morning, the Dow Jones was down about 270 points
* It finished the day up 53 points
* There wasn't any real news that caused the market to go up; people were buying the dip
* The oil market also turned around; it was down a buck and change and managed to close up .20-.30
* Gold was the mirror image; gold was up at one point to $27-$28, back above $1250
* Then when the stock market rallied back the gold market sold off
* It managed to closed with a small $3 gain or so
* Gold stocks closed the day mixed, most still positive on the day
* The reason why the stock market falling is positive for gold is the effect that a falling stock market is going to have on the Fed, and its decisions on future interest rate hikes
* Even if the stock market is not going down, the Fed will still reverse on rates because of the economy
* The economy is back in recession, whether the Fed wants to acknowledge the fact or not
* We had another Fed official, Richmond Fed President Jeffrey Lacker, actually came out saying he sees no signs that a recession is imminent
* He sees no reason why the Fed should not go forward with the planned rate hikes for 2016
* Maybe rose-colored glasses are standard issue over at the Fed
* There is ample evidence that there is a recession
* However, if someone of Lacker's stature would come out and say, "Look, we're going into a recesssion, but rates are really low and the Fed has to raise them anyway, and this is going to be difficult." That would be honest.
* But the Fed is saying they are going to raise rates because the economy is in great shape
* To do otherwise is to admit that the Fed's monetary policy failed
* The Fed is playing a very dangerous game
* Not only do they risk making the economy worse, they risk their credibility
* Here is some economic news that came out today, after Lacker's speech
* At 9:45 am we got the February PMI Flash  Services Index
* Last month, the number was 53.7 and this number was expected to repeat for February
* The February number came out at 49.8! This shows that the recession is not contained to manufacturing
* This reminds me of what they said about sub-prime: "Don't worry about it, the recession is contained to sub-prime." - That was nonsense and it is nonsense now
* The problems in the economy are not contained to manufacturing, and today's numbers prove it
* The service sector contracted in February
* The last time this happened was in October of 2013. That was during the government shut-down, so a lot of government services were not available
* That's an outlier - if you take that out, the last time we had a service sector PMI below 50 was during the great recession
* So again, another indicator flashing recession
* It's amazing to me that the Atlanta Fed still hasn't walked down their 2.6% forecast for Q1 GDP
*  We've gotten so much bad news since the good news that prompted that forecast yet they've done nothing to downwardly revise their estimate
* The FOMC might have said, "Hey, Atlanta, get with the program! We're talking up the economy - stop coming up with these negative forecasts."
* On Friday, we're going to get the revised Q4 GDP numbers, which was originally reported as +.7
* I think it will be revised down, in fact the consensus is a revision down to .4
* So we're getting closer and closer to zero
* The numbers we're getting for the first quarter could be worse, despite the Federal Reserve's rosy scenario
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0:00.0

Well, we had some wild swings in the markets today, particularly the stock market and the

0:15.2

gold market.

0:16.2

At one point this morning, the Dow Jones was down about 270 points and it finished the

0:21.8

day up 53 points.

0:24.8

Now there wasn't any real news that came out to cause the market to go up.

0:28.8

It just went up.

0:29.8

I mean, people I guess started buying just because they want to do, you know, by the

0:34.9

dip, I don't know, people, you know, market went down so people came in and bought the oil

0:39.2

market also turned around.

0:40.6

Crude was down about a buck and change and managed to close up about 20, 30 cents.

0:45.6

A lot of people wanted to say that it's because crude oil rallied that the market rallied.

0:50.3

But I don't think it's causing effect.

0:51.8

I think they were both rising for the same reasons.

0:54.8

Gold, of course, was the mirror image.

0:57.0

Gold at one point this morning when the Dow was down near the lows was up about 27, 28

1:02.0

dollars.

1:03.0

We were back above 1250 and then when the stock market rallied back, the gold market sold

1:08.0

off managed to close out with a small $3 gain or so.

1:13.4

Gold stocks finished the day mixed.

1:16.9

Most of them still positive on the day, but some slightly negative, although way off

1:21.7

their highs, I mean, most of these stocks this morning were up 5, 6, 7, 8 percent, yet

1:27.0

they finished up maybe one or two percent if that and a few of them actually managed to

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