Receiving the Second Anointing and then Leaving Mormonism - Tom Phillips (Rebroadcast) | Ep. 1917

Mormon Stories Podcast

Dr. John Dehlin

Religion & Spirituality

4.6 • 5.2K Ratings

🗓️ 12 July 2024

⏱️ 255 minutes

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Summary

In this compelling rebroadcast (first time on youtube), we revisit John Dehlin's 2012 interview with Tom Phillips, a U.K. convert and former LDS stake president whose close friendships with LDS leaders like Harold Hillam, Gordon Hinkley, Russel Ballard, and Jeffrey Holland likely led to the invitation to receive the religion's most exclusive ordinance, the Second Anointing. However, Tom's journey would soon take an unexpected turn after taking part in the secretive ritual which would have repercussions for his place among the community and even his own family.

Since the original episode, an intriguing twist has emerged: Tom's son, Alan, has ascended to the role of General Authority in the Church, despite his father's well-documented disaffection. This development adds a poignant layer to an already complex narrative of faith, doubt, and family dynamics within the LDS Church.

Whether you're hearing this story for the first time or revisiting it with fresh ears, Tom Phillips' journey continues to resonate, raising thought-provoking questions about faith, truth, and the accountability and privilege of Mormonism's top leaders.

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0:00.0	Hello everyone and welcome to another additional Mormon stories
0:03.1	podcast I'm your host John Delinn it is July 9th 2024 and I am recording the
0:08.8	intro to another what I believe to be very, very important Mormon Stories Podcast episode.
0:15.0	Today we will be rebroadcasting for the first time on YouTube, my interview with Tom Phillips and specifically Tom Phillips was a high-ranking
0:27.7	member of the LDS Church, former state president twice I believe, former high-level leader in the United Kingdom
0:36.2	in London who recounts among other things his receiving of the Mormon Church's most sacred,
0:46.0	most essential ordinance for salvation,
0:51.0	the second anointing.
0:53.0	So I conducted this interview in June of 2012,
0:59.0	and I didn't release it, I believe,
1:01.0	until around 2015, right around the time of my excommunication.
1:07.8	But this episode was originally released in audio form only, and this is the first time it's been released over YouTube and
1:16.8	it's released as a part in a series we have already released part one in the series, which was a history of the LDS Church's second anointing taught to us by the amazing Brian Buchanan.
1:31.0	And then we had a second episode with someone we interviewed named Darren Klein
1:35.8	who talked about discovering his grandparents invitation to receive the second anointing in his trash, in his grandparents' trash,
1:46.7	and he talks about what that did to his faith to his testimony as well.
1:52.1	This episode I would absolutely rank as one of the top three if not the
1:57.7	most important episode of all time on Mormon stories and that's significant
2:02.0	because you know we've got over 1,900 episodes now.
2:06.4	But in this episode, Tom Phillips recounts his receiving of the Eldia second anointing on May 18th, 2002 in the Preston England
2:20.4	temple in Birmingham, England by Elder M Russell Ballard,
2:24.9	who just recently passed away.
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