Rebroadcast: Why relationships fall apart over dirty dishes — and how to avoid the trap

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🗓️ 23 November 2023

⏱️ 35 minutes

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In this episode from our archives, Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu talks with Kate Mangino, a gender expert and the author of the book Equal Partners: Improving Gender Equality at Home. Mangino points to research that shows women still take on the majority of household responsibilities in different-sex relationships — and she argues there’s a better way for partners to balance the mental and physical labor of running a home.

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0:00.0	Hey there. This week we're bringing you an episode from our archives that has really stuck with us since we aired it last year. This conversation was part of our annual Think Again series, and it's about re-evaluating gender roles when it comes to divvying up
0:15.2	household chores and logistics. We thought it might feel extra relevant this time of
0:20.4	year as families get together for the Thanksgiving holiday. Okay, here's the show.
0:29.2	This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shimita Bassu, our Think Again series continues.
0:37.0	Today, How to Have a More Equal Partnership. show.
0:50.0	A few years ago, Kate Manjino had a ton on her plate. She was teaching multiple undergraduate classes while finishing her PhD.
0:56.5	She had two young kids, two and five years old. Her husband was working a 9 to 5 job, so Kate was taking on a lot of the parenting and household responsibilities.
1:08.0	I was the parent that got the phone call from daycare when someone was sick and had to come home early.
1:14.9	And I was overwhelmed and struggling.
1:18.6	Then one day Kate's PhD advisor told her her deadline was getting moved up.
1:24.0	Instead of two months to hand in her dissertation,
1:26.6	she now had one month.
1:28.2	And I went home that night and I sobbed. I mean, I just, I couldn't get myself together. I cried and cried and cried. The kids were in bed. I remember sitting on my kitchen floor, which was filthy, that was part of the problem because I thought and on top of everything else I have to clean my kitchen floor
1:45.1	Her husband tried to comfort her he kept saying tell me what I can do to help you and I got angry and I said don't you understand telling you
1:56.3	what to do to help is work. That adds more to my plate. I don't want to
2:02.1	tell you what to do. I just want you to step up and do it.
2:07.0	What Kate said there, maybe you've said that before to your partner, or had it said to you.
2:14.3	Researchers have found that in different sex relationships today,
2:17.9	65% of the physical housework is done by women
2:21.6	and 35% is done by men.
2:24.8	Now, Kate knew this statistic.
2:27.4	This is what she studies.
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