meta_pixel
Tapesearch Logo
Log in
Apple News In Conversation

Rebroadcast: They killed 24 people, including children. No one was ever held responsible.

Apple News In Conversation

Apple News

News Commentary, News

4.61.3K Ratings

🗓️ 8 May 2025

⏱️ 30 minutes

🧾️ Download transcript

Summary

This week, the New Yorker was awarded a Pulitzer Prize for its podcast In the Dark, which is featured in this episode from our archives.

On Nov. 19, 2005, a group of U.S. Marines killed 24 men, women, and children in Haditha, Iraq. It would become known as the Haditha massacre and set off one of the largest war-crimes investigations in American history. But, ultimately, no one was convicted of these killings. The latest season of the New Yorker’s podcast In the Dark explores what happened in Haditha and how the U.S. military justice system often fails to hold its members to account. Host Madeleine Baran spoke with Apple News In Conversation’s Shumita Basu about this expansive investigative reporting. Listen to the full interview on Apple Podcasts.

Transcript

Click on a timestamp to play from that location

0:00.0

Hey there, it's Shemita here. The Pulitzer Prizes were announced this past week, honoring so many examples of excellence in journalism from the past year, many of which we have featured on our daily news podcast, Apple News Today, or on this show in conversation.

0:16.5

Among the winners this year was the New Yorker for its investigative podcast, In The Dark,

0:21.4

which told the story of possible U.S. military war crimes during the Iraq war.

0:26.4

Last summer, I spoke with the host of In The Dark, Madeline Barron, about this investigation.

0:31.1

So we wanted to resurface that episode for you this week.

0:34.5

Congratulations to their team on winning a Pulitzer.

0:38.5

I hope you enjoy listening. Congratulations to their team on winning a Pulitzer. I hope you enjoy listening.

0:48.9

This is In Conversation from Apple News. I'm Shmita Basu. Today, how the shadowy military justice system buries possible war crimes.

1:09.2

On November 19th of 2005, during the U.S. war in Iraq, a group of U.S. Marines killed 24 Iraqi men,

1:13.6

women, and children in what would become known as the Haditha Massacre. The Pentagon is investigating an alleged rampage by U.S. Marines in Iraq.

1:18.6

It all started when four Marine Humvees entered Haditha.

1:21.6

The Marines initially reported that more than a dozen civilians were killed in a roadside bombing and in the crossfire that followed.

1:28.2

But that was far from the truth.

1:30.7

It appears to have been an unprovoked attack by the Marines.

1:35.0

The people were killed when the Marines went into the houses and opened fire on them.

1:40.2

Killing women and children as they searched unsuccessfully, apparently, for insurgents.

1:45.1

Iraqi eyewitnesses claim the Marines simply went on a rampage.

1:50.1

Then President George W. Bush spoke about the killings.

1:54.4

I am troubled by the initial news stories.

2:00.4

I am mindful that there's a thorough investigation going on.

2:06.6

If in fact the, you know, the laws were broken, there'll be punishment.

2:14.6

But a punishment would never come.

...

Transcript will be available on the free plan in 6 days. Upgrade to see the full transcript now.

Disclaimer: The podcast and artwork embedded on this page are from Apple News, and are the property of its owner and not affiliated with or endorsed by Tapesearch.

Generated transcripts are the property of Apple News and are distributed freely under the Fair Use doctrine. Transcripts generated by Tapesearch are not guaranteed to be accurate.

Copyright © Tapesearch 2025.