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🗓️ 31 December 2022
⏱️ 29 minutes
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This is an interview from our archives. It was part of a series called Think Again — a guide to reimagining work, home, relationships, and more.
In this episode, Apple News In Conversation host Shumita Basu talks with Aubrey Gordon and Michael Hobbes, hosts of the Maintenance Phase podcast, about how to outsmart the wellness industry, spot junk health science, and find information that will actually help you live healthier. Below are excerpts from the interview.
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0:00.0 | Hi there. For this last episode of 2022, we're throwing it back to our archives. |
0:07.1 | This is from our series Think Again, which first ran over the summer. |
0:11.4 | It was all about rethinking old ideas, about our relationships, work, personal lives, and exploring new ones. |
0:20.0 | If you're considering a New Year's resolution about your health, this episode is for you. |
0:26.2 | I hope you enjoy it. |
0:35.0 | This is in conversation from Apple News. I'm Shimitha Basu. |
0:38.2 | Today, how to navigate wellness culture |
0:41.1 | and decode junkie health science. |
0:44.0 | A few weeks ago, an article was circulating online. |
0:54.0 | Maybe you saw it on social media. |
0:56.0 | It was about a health study done in London that claimed a ban on junk food advertising led to almost 100,000 fewer people becoming obese, |
1:07.2 | and that it could end up saving Britain's National Health Service 200 million pounds. |
1:12.3 | Uh, what? |
1:15.0 | I don't know that you can prove that there were 100,000 people who were going to become |
1:20.2 | fat and because you took down these billboards they're not fat. |
1:24.0 | Now when you think about it it doesn't really make sense does it? |
1:28.2 | That is like a long chain of events that you got to go okay they were going to see the |
1:32.0 | billboards how do we prove that they were going to see the billboards. How do we prove that the thing was going to make them fat? How do we prove that there were a hundred thousand of the people who were going to see the thing buy the thing and it was going to make them fat. |
1:43.7 | There is sort of so much missing from that line of logic. |
1:48.0 | The person that you're hearing debunk this study is Aubrey Gordon. |
1:52.4 | She spends a lot of time doing this exact thing on the |
1:55.4 | podcast maintenance phase with her co-host Michael Hobbs. Every week there's |
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