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On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

Rebroadcast: Scholar Randall Kennedy's reflections on race, culture and law in America

On Point with Meghna Chakrabarti

WBUR

Talk Show, News, Npr, Daily, On Point

4.33.9K Ratings

🗓️ 1 September 2022

⏱️ 48 minutes

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Summary

For decades, scholar Randall Kennedy has been writing about race, culture and the law. “We are certainly much further from the racial promised land than I had thought that we were," he says. Randall Kennedy joins Meghna Chakrabarti.

Transcript

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0:00.0

This is on point, a Magna Chacrabardi.

0:02.8

There's something that caught me off guard in the very first sentence of Say It Loud,

0:08.9

Randall Kennedy's latest book.

0:11.4

The Harvard Law School professor states, quote,

0:14.9

The writings that follow are the impressions of a black, slash Negro, slash colored, slash African-American law professor born in Columbia, South Carolina in 1954, four months after the Supreme Court handed down Brown V Board of Education.

0:33.1

End quote.

0:35.3

Black, Negro, colored, African-American professor Kennedy, first of all, it's great to have you back on on point. Why did you do that in the very first sentence of your book?

0:47.3

First of all, it's so nice to be on your wonderful show. So thanks for inviting me.

0:53.2

Now to answer your question, I wanted to put that in the very first sentence of the book to signal right off that

1:03.9

I'm not into fashion and that I'm going to speak very forthrightly and straightforwardly in the language that I prefer to deal with the race question in American life.

1:20.8

And what is that language?

1:23.1

Straight forward language and a language that doesn't bow to arbiters of taste that really don't know much about our history.

1:36.4

So I was quite aware that there would be some people who might take offense, for instance, at me using the word Negro.

1:44.2

In fact, I have an essay in the book about the way in which black Americans have named and renamed themselves over the course of American history.

1:53.5

And that essay was prompted by a student who complained about my use of the word Negro.

2:01.6

And among the things I said to the student was that I started using the word Negro quite often in 1983, 1984.

2:13.9

Because of the directive of my boss, who was my boss?

2:19.3

My boss was Mr. Civil Rights, Justice Thurgood Marshall.

2:23.4

He used the word Negro.

2:25.6

He used the word Negro, WB Dubois used the word Negro, Martin Luther King, Jr. used the word Negro, made grubbers used the word Negro.

2:33.8

Rose Aparks used the word Negro.

2:36.0

If those folks could use the word Negro, it's good enough for me.

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