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transition. How did you come up with the idea for the stories in the Expanse series?

I said, Ty what happens and he told me? It was great. No seriously because it's so good.

This idea that this protonolecule comes from like an asteroid from far away and it just upends everything about humanity.

And we can't really handle it very well because we're just really good at taking our political

problems with us wherever we go in this universe.

It's just, it's really, really good. That's just history. That's every major technological

advance in human history. We've been doing that same pattern of the organism not changing and the structures around the

organism being transformed by technology since we came up with like fire.

Yeah I mean I'm sure that the first thing prehistoric

man did when he discovered how to set things on fire as he started setting his

neighbors on fire. That's just the way, that's just the way we worked.

This is on point, I'm Magnichakrabardi and...

This is Daniel, I can hear you.

And... The other guy's Ty.

The other guy's Ty. The other guy's Ty.

The other guy being Ty Frank.

Ty and his friend Daniel Abraham

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