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🗓️ 12 September 2024
⏱️ 49 minutes
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In his new book "The End of Race Politics," Coleman Hughes argues that closing racial divides in America means building a color-blind society. Coleman Hughes joins Meghna Chakrabarti.
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0:00.0 | Support for this podcast comes from the Atlantic Festival. |
0:03.4 | On September 19th and 20th in Washington, D.C. |
0:07.0 | Connect with other curious people to think deeply about issues that matter. |
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0:17.5 | Tickets are available at the Atlantic Festival.com. |
0:21.0 | This is on point. I'm Magna Chakrabardi. Coleman Hughes traces his |
0:26.8 | ancestry back to an enslaved man who was forced to work on Thomas Jefferson's |
0:31.3 | Montecello Plantation. |
0:33.6 | His grandfather was a highly educated black man who was told not to apply for a management |
0:38.8 | job because white colleagues would resent working for him. |
0:43.0 | Hughes' father is black. |
0:44.8 | His mother was Puerto Rican who hailed from the South Bronx in New York. |
0:49.8 | So does all that give you a pretty good understanding of who Coleman Hughes is? |
0:56.4 | Well, Hughes himself would say, with absolute certainty, no. Telling you the story about the color of his No. |
1:03.1 | Telling you the story about the color of his skin tells you next to nothing about who he is, |
1:08.3 | Hughes would say. |
1:09.6 | In fact, I believe he'd say that by beginning today's show with a racial description, |
1:15.7 | we've fallen hard into what he calls the pernicious intellectual trap that claims |
1:20.8 | race is the most salient fact about any American. |
1:25.0 | In fact Coleman Hughes would go farther. |
1:28.0 | He says there are influential public intellectuals who've written and advocated persuasively for social and |
1:33.9 | racial justice in America. Hughes has no bone to pick with that, but he says |
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