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Open Book with Jenna

Rebecca Yarros on Writing ‘Onyx Storm’ and Building Epic Romance Novels (March 2025)

Open Book with Jenna

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Jenna Bush Hager, Society & Culture, Read With Jenna Podcast, Today, Today Show, Nbc News, Read With Jenna Book Club Podcast, Nbc, The Today Show, Nbc Today Show, Read With Jenna Book Club, Read With Jenna

4.8943 Ratings

🗓️ 5 February 2026

⏱️ 37 minutes

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Summary

Rebecca Yarros is a number one New York Times bestselling author of more than twenty novels, including "Fourth Wing," "Iron Flame," and "Onyx Storm," which became the fastest-selling adult novel in twenty years with 2.7 million copies sold in its first week. In this conversation from March 2025, Yarros sits down with Jenna Bush Hager to talk about crafting sweeping love stories and how living with chronic illness and growing up in a military family shaped the world of "Fourth Wing." Plus, she opens up about balancing sudden fame with motherhood, why readers have fallen so deeply for her characters, and how writing romance helped her believe in a dream she once thought was out of reach.

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Rebecca Yoros is a prolific writer who's written over 20 books and is a number one New York Times bestselling author.

0:15.3

Her bestselling romanticisty books, Fourth Wing and Iron Flame, have become viral phenomenons on social media. Her latest novel,

0:23.3

Onyx Storm, is the third book in her five book series. It's the fastest selling adult novel in 20 years,

0:30.3

and sold 2.7 million copies in its first week. Rebecca continues to dominate the New York Times

0:36.2

bestseller list week after week,

0:38.5

proving she is a force in the romantici genre.

0:41.4

And with the help of TikTok's book talk, her fandom only continues to grow.

0:46.4

While she didn't necessarily set out for fame, she's achieved literary superstardom.

0:51.5

In fact, Rebecca initially began writing her novels while her husband was deployed

0:55.6

as a way to process her anxiety. She's been in love with the world of fantasy since she was a kid,

1:01.7

and decades later, she drew on her experience with chronic illness and a life in a military family

1:06.9

to write fourth wing and give readers a heroin they could identify with.

1:11.3

Becoming an author is the dream she always had, but never knew was possible.

1:15.2

And now she is a force in publishing, living out her very own fantasy.

1:21.3

I'm Jenna Bush-Hager. Welcome to my podcast, Open Book with Jenna.

1:36.8

Thank you.

1:40.0

You know, I feel like because I've gotten to read into these worlds, and I read that you said

1:45.5

somewhere that you want to write fantasy for non-fantasy lovers, and that's me. I wasn't a fantasy

1:51.4

kid. Of course, I read it and I liked it, but I wasn't in love with it. And you have changed that.

1:59.5

And so I'm just so thrilled that you would be here with us today.

2:02.6

Thank you for having me. I'm so glad you're reading fantasy now. I know. Well, I mean, mainly just your fantasy. You'll branch out. You'll get there. It's addicting. But you can introduce me to other other things. Good. Excellent. There's amazing other authors out there waiting for you. Take me back to when you first knew you were a reader.

2:18.6

Because you are a reader first.

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