Hi, I'm Zibi Owens, and this is Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books.

This episode of Moms Don't Have Time to Read Books has been sponsored by Nini's Treats, N-E-N-E-S treats.

N-N-E-S treats.com, an amazing family-owned and operated crumb cake business based in Charleston, South Carolina. You can buy their delicious crumb cakes at niniestreats.com or on goldbelly.com. Nini's treats, you won't leave a crumb. I'm here today with Rebecca Shragh-Hershberg, Ph.D., who's the author of The Tantrum Survival Guide,

Tune into your toddler's mind and your own to calm the craziness and make family fun again,

a clinical psychologist and founder of Little House Call's Psychological Services,

which helps kids and parents face all sorts of challenges.

Rebecca has written many helpful articles about early childhood issues.

She's taught at the Albert Einstein College of Medicine

and has led many seminars and workshop for parents,

a graduate of Yale University with the PhD from the University of Virginia.

She currently lives with her husband and two young sons in the New York area

where she was born and raised. Welcome, Rebecca.

Thank you. I'm so happy to be here.

Rebecca and I went to high school and college together, so this will be more of an informal, probably, tone than some other podcasts. I keep thinking if our, like, 16-year-old selves could see us now, their minds would be blown. I still feel like you had the coolest room in high school. I, like, begged my mom to remodel my roomodel my room based on your bulletin board. Do you remember that? I do remember that. And what was funny is that I had like the least designed. It was like, I don't know, buy some stuff and put it on the wall. I know. But it was like the coolest. You were like the coolest. Oh, thank you. Anyway. So your book, congratulations. so awesome. The tone of your book is so great, like as if I'm just sitting here chatting with you today. Even the first sentence of your book, it sets the whole tone. You say, hi, I can't believe you pulled it off. You found a few minutes of downtime to start this book. So immediately, when I read that, I'm like, ah, this is going to be great. I feel understood. You get it. In fact, then you go on to say just that. You say, I get it.

I do.

I, too, I'm like, ah, this is going to be great. I feel understood. You get it. In fact, then you go on to say just that. You say, I get it. I do. I too am a parent. I have two little boys 21 months apart. Did I mention I get it? So it's so refreshing. There's so many experts out there, but it's refreshing for an expert to be sort of so disarming like that and just like, yeah, I'm in it with you. So tell me how you ended up

writing this book in the midst of running a psychological practice and raising two little kids.

Yeah, no, it's a very good question and it's actually a good segue from what you just said

because it's like this unheard of thing that happened to me, which is that I just got a cold call

from an editor. I was on maternity leave with my second, and I will never

forget because I was exhausted and, you know, unshowered and all the rest, and I was deciding to go

for a walk, which, as you know, is like this big decision. And I got a call from an unknown number that I

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