We've seen studies of baby chimps and if they're not held when they're young, they will die.

And that's a pretty interesting thing to think about.

Being held and being touched by another chimp or by a human helped them thrive, you know.

And I feel like we lose sight of that as adults. Women in our culture is much more acceptable for us to

touch and chat and hold hands and connectively and on each other and hug. And with guys, especially

older guys, it's not so much the thing, you know. I feel like the younger generations have started

to figure out, you know, co-ed touching is just fine and it's pretty a normal thing. But especially

the older people right now, older single guys, I am in so much... I feel so much for where they are.

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Hi, Shreeni. It's my pleasure. Thanks for having me.

Yeah, it is my pleasure to have you here. So as I was saying before we hit record here,

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