Realizing Big Dreams: Tools, Lessons, and Inspiration with Former Thunderbird Pilot Michelle “MACE” Curran
Self-Helpless
Cloud10
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🗓️ 15 September 2025
⏱️ 79 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Your first great love story is free when you sign up for a free 30-day trial at audible.co. |
| 0:05.5 | That's audible.co.ukesl-wondery. |
| 0:11.5 | I'm no good. I take in good advice. |
| 0:16.0 | And I'm self-careless, so don't tell me twice that lately I've been so stuck in my head that I forget just about |
| 0:27.0 | everything my therapist said maybe I'm self-helpless. |
| 0:32.0 | Hey everyone, welcome to self-helpless. |
| 0:33.4 | I'm Delaney Fisher. |
| 0:34.4 | And today I'm chatting with Michelle Mace Curran, who is a former fighter pilot, |
| 0:38.6 | combat veteran, and the second woman in history to fly lead solo for the Air Force Thunderbirds. |
| 0:44.5 | And we are talking about the insights from her demanding dangerous, yet what she also calls |
| 0:51.7 | an incredibly fulfilling career, and how she managed fear and self-doubt |
| 0:56.6 | while being in this very unique position and really how it's translated into the rest of her life |
| 1:02.5 | and even her new career as an author and speaker. So she's sharing personal stories, |
| 1:07.2 | her favorite tools. We talk about her near-death experiences while flying, career and life |
| 1:12.3 | transitions. She even describes what it feels like inside of a jet when you go supersonic or when you |
| 1:19.9 | experience G-force and G-lock. So yeah, this was just really fascinating. I mean, if you're like me where your idea of adventure is trying a new flavor of tea |
| 1:31.4 | and you would never even think to fly a jet, she does not just speak to pilots or people |
| 1:38.0 | in the military. |
| 1:38.9 | So Mace is talking about things and feelings that we all experience, fear, self-doubt, transitions, decision-making, |
| 1:46.6 | chasing after a dream or a feeling we have. So feel free to plug in your own details to |
| 1:52.0 | the tips and experiences that she's offering up today. Also, I got to say it was pretty cool |
| 1:57.7 | speaking to a real-life top gun., uh, which we even talk about that franchise |
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