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The Patrick Madrid Show

Reality vs Perception: Patrick Madrid Debates Transgender Issues with a Gay Man (Special Podcast Highlight)

The Patrick Madrid Show

Relevant Radio

Religion & Spirituality, Christianity

4.8587 Ratings

🗓️ 4 April 2024

⏱️ 16 minutes

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Summary

Parents: Please use caution. Not all material in this podcast episode may be suitable for young ears.

 

In a thought-provoking clip of The Patrick Madrid Show, Patrick Madrid explores the reality of identity, fatherhood, and gender in light of Catholic teaching. Joshua from Ohio brings up a question: if societal roles like fatherhood can change based on actions and social functions, why can't the same logic apply to gender? 

 

Patrick clarifies that, unlike societal roles, biological realities like being a father, or male and female, remain unchanged despite societal perceptions or actions. He likens this to the immutable nature of biological fatherhood, irrespective of the quality of the father-child relationship. 

 

Joshua counters with scenarios where social acknowledgment supersedes biological ties, especially in cases of adoption or absence. Yet, Patrick remains firm: while social roles may evolve, biological realities stay constant, echoing Catholic teachings that a man born a man remains a man, and a woman born a woman remains a woman.

 

The conversation shifts to the topic of transgender individuals. Patrick argues that even if a person "passes" as the opposite gender, it doesn't alter their biological reality. He emphasizes the distinction between societal perception and biological fact, highlighting the Church's stance on the sanctity of one's birth sex. 🙏

 

An intriguing twist surfaces as they explore the implications of transitioning and societal roles in more personal contexts like relationships and safety in spaces like bathrooms. Patrick insists on the importance of recognizing biological sex for safety and integrity, underlining potential risks in ignoring these distinctions.

 

As they touch upon the complexities of transitioning and committing crimes, Patrick suggests that biological sex should guide prison placement, again underlining safety concerns and the immutable nature of biological sex.

Transcript

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0:00.0

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0:04.9

go let's go to joshua now in ohio me welcome joshua hi thanks for having me on um so my question is

0:12.4

we have some biological categories like fatherhood where there's also a significant social status to it, and you can revoke it by abandoning

0:25.2

your child or abusing him. Similarly with adulthood, we sometimes have people change categories,

0:32.4

for example, if a kid commits a horrible act of violence. So I'm wondering why those social functions don't also apply to the categories male and

0:43.4

female.

0:44.7

Okay, I want to make sure I understand correctly.

0:46.6

So you're referring to the categories of fatherhood, and what was the second category that

0:52.2

you used?

0:52.8

Well, adulthood versus juveniles.

0:55.4

These are categories with a biological and genetic reality,

0:59.9

but we still understand there's a social function attached,

1:04.2

and we do have people in a society change statuses.

1:08.6

Okay, now I get it.

1:10.1

Okay, thank you for clarifying.

1:11.9

So let's think about that for a minute.

1:13.5

So let's say to use you as an example, and I hope you had a wonderful relationship with

1:17.9

your father, but let's say for the sake of discussion that you didn't, and let's say he

1:21.5

was a terrible father, and he walked away from your mom and left you abandoned and did terrible things.

1:31.1

And you would still say, my father did those things.

1:35.8

He's still your father.

1:37.5

In other words, that part, that nature of the relationship between him, even if he was a scoundrel and you as his biological offspring,

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