Marshall and Saga here. Welcome back to the Supercast AMA edition of the realignment podcast.

Sorry for no episode last week, kind of shifting the schedule around Saga and I are both in the middle, both of that weird, sorry vacation period, but also intensive wedding planning. This will be over after late August to release September, not that I'm not pumped for the wedding. This is just definitely the most difficult.

Part of the schedule and period, so I appreciate everyone's understanding and chillness with that. You guys know a deal. If you'd like to listen to the full version of this episode, you can go to realignment.supercast.com or click the link at the top of the show notes. We offer a bit of free content and then actually get into the pay world section where I will reiterate the way you could access to the full one. Huge thank you to everyone who is supporting. So first question. Sorry, you were not on this.

So this is entirely for me. I didn't interview with John Lovell. He's a kind of describe it like YouTuber, former army ranger. He runs something called the Warrior Poets Society into like gun training, like all those different things. And this has definitely been the poorest received episode. I've ever conducted on any podcast I've ever done. I've done over 400 episodes of the realignment and then over, you know, 100%.

But more of the Hudson and on deck one. So this is the worst one ever. I actually got my first ever. This was so bad. I'm canceling my subscription email. That's always kind of a fascinating category of email to me. But no, so here's a deal with the interview.

Here's what my initial thought was. So John is obviously conservative. He's a part of that, you know, former special forces and listed person category that's got really big on YouTube. So you've noticed soccer, all these big conversations about masculinity.

And the crisis of American men. And when I got the pitch for the book, I was most interested in kind of taking this crisis of American masculinity discourse, which you're seeing in the Washington Post, Richard Reeves is doing it. And actually having a discourse on that topic with someone who actually puts out content. That's aimed at young men in the first place, because like Christian embass article in the post was like really great. But like obviously like that's an example of someone who's coming from a more mainstream establishment world engaging with a topic.

Africa big. So the objective was I would have that conversation with someone who's coming from that space already. However, the problem is that at the end of the day with the realignment and even breaking points are at their best when they're doing with people who are directly in policy and politics.

And because John as a person who doesn't see himself as political, I don't think he was able to engage with the questions like in a kind of straightforward way. So when I'm like, hey, like parting words for like people are trying to struggle for these things. And he's like, hey, like fine Jesus or, you know, he's talking about wokeness and just ways that like, okay, maybe that's fair for like the first chance of where that really shouldn't be the third or fourth or fifth answer.

He's talking about how he doesn't want to pay taxes, like, et cetera, et cetera. So it just kind of fell into the category of just kind of unhelpfulness. So I don't regret the episode because I think it's always great to experiment kind of try something different. But this has been a good kind of example of, hey, like this show is at its best when it's focused on a very specific type of guest across the ideological spectrum.

And it's not just like enough for me to find someone who I may disagree if they have to be like in the right category of disagreement. So if I want to talk with a conservative about the masculinity crisis topic, I should find a conservative is coming from the word of policy and politics, not someone who's just kind of adjacent to it.

But I'm sure you've run into I'm sure you run into this in the breaking points context, you have people who are kind of political, but like they're not actually rooted in politics. So things go off the rails.

Yeah, I totally understand what you mean and where you're coming from in terms of like people who don't get the format and stuff. So everyone out there, calm, fuck down. It's been 400 episodes, you know, you don't have to cancel after a single one. Anyway, yeah, no, I mean, you've you've definitely you've experienced the RFK junior and crystal kind of version of this that's it a bigger, bigger, bigger scale.

We do kind of have a fun question that comes over this and curious, we think about this. So John spent a lot of time talking about the nature of objective truth and how it exists and how a lot of our problems start from not recognizing truth. So a listener wants to know in the recent John level interview level asserted that we must agree on some objective truth for society to function.

I agree with this. So I ask each of you which Starbucks menu item is objectively the best. I'm asking because I don't really go to Starbucks anymore. I think Starbucks is at a pretty significant fall off in terms of quality. Definitely the instur experience isn't great. But yeah, what's your take on the sugar.

I'm not the right guy to ask. I don't drink milk with my coffee. So like, for example, 80% I did a I did something about this while back about 80% of customers at Starbucks.

Put milk or order something that's not black coffee. Only 20% of customers at the actual chain drink black coffee. I only drink black coffee. So if you were to ask me, it would be like a Grande Blonde. I don't really like

Pike, Pike, place Starbucks roast. I think it's too burnt. It's actually basically designed so you have to like, nuke it with cream and sugar. Their blonde veranda roast is not bad. So that's the only one I've really

But I know that that's not what most people would want. So my answer is not the right. My answer is not what you're looking for.

Yeah, no, it's kind of funny because now that I'm thinking about it, your answer totally makes sense because I actually thanks to you, fun factor everybody at my personality trait used to be that I would

pour gallons of milk, cream and sugar and somewhere around I think 2012, 2013, you finally just said stop.

And effectively shamed me until I stopped doing that, but that makes Starbucks a problem because your point Starbucks is black coffee is not particularly good. I do like the pops though. I will defend the pops the pops. We could

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