I don't know what it is, but you reach a certain age and suddenly your body is putting on body

fat in areas where you never had a problem. Maybe you've noticed belly fat or back fat. It's inconvenient.

It can be embarrassing. And you've probably wondered, like, what do I do about this? What exercises

will help you tone this area? Is it actually possible to spot reduce? And what's going on with

their bodies?

Why is it perimenopausal, menopausal women?

We tend to carry fat in this midsection region and what can be done about it.

Today I'm having a very honest and real conversation with my friend, fitness and nutrition expert, Natalie Jill.

And we wanted to invite you to be a part of this conversation.

So without further ado, my friend of more than 15 years, Natalie Jill.

What you all don't know listening is that we go back and forth on voice notes all day long.

My husband jokes.

He says, do you actually ever talk on the phone?

And I think maybe once in the last year.

Normally it's just voice notes back and forth. That way we don't interrupt each other.

We just, we say our thing and then the next one goes. But we talk about all the midlife stuff

happening. All of these things all the time. And I feel like we talk on the phone all the time

because we do. It's just, yeah, via voice note. And I can't believe some people don't use voice notes. It's more efficient. No one interrupts. You just, you get out what you need to say.

It's fast. And we're in two different time zones, so it works really well that way.

But one of our recent voice notes, I actually said to Shalene, I said, you look so good in your pictures. Do you have that back fat thing going on? I said, do you actually

have that stuff? And so she sent me, which if she ever makes you mad, it might go out on the

internet, but she sent me an actual unposed pitcher. And sure enough, if she's not stretching

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