We're joined today by Brook Parsons.

Brook is senior pastor of St. Andrews Chapel in Sanford, Florida, and yet it's table talk,

the monthly magazine of Ligonier Ministries.

He's on Twitter, too, in a way that is very compelling.

Thank you for joining us today, Brook, and in fact, that's where I want you to start.

I want you to riff on a tweet that you posted back in May.

It was on preaching, and you posted this quote, pastors who deliver merely intellectually

stimulating lectures and not gospel-saturated intellectually stimulating worship-driven sermons

will always produce auditors and spectators rather than participants and passionate worshipers.

In quote, explain for us, Berkha, what's at the heart of that tweet?

Thanks, Tony.

Essentially, at the very heart of that is really my understanding of the role of the pastor.

That the pastor is not merely a preacher.

That the pastor does indeed preach, that we are called a preach, but we are not merely

called a preach.

Pastors are shepherds, and we shepherd God's people, and we serve the Lord's people.

These are God's flock, as Peter writes, of course.

And we are called to serve them in numerous ways, and preaching is one of the ways that

we do that, and albeit a significant way in which we do that, of course.

So the pastor in preaching is serving a congregation, serving families, serving individuals,

serving singles, serving young couples, and serving children.

And so one of the most significant things that I think we're facing in our day is sort

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