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The Daily Beast Podcast

Real Reason My Uncle Trump Became a Monster: Niece

The Daily Beast Podcast

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4.6 • 8.4K Ratings

🗓️ 27 January 2026

⏱️ 59 minutes

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Summary

Mary Trump describes a nation at a breaking point, as the killing of a Veterans Association ICU nurse Alex Pretti by ICE agents and the administration’s response expose what she sees as the Trump playbook in its most dangerous form. Speaking with The Daily Beast’s political reporter Sarah Ewall-Wice, Mary Trump argues that her uncle’s instinct has always been to deny responsibility, attack victims, and escalate rather than restrain violence—and that this pattern is intensifying as his cognitive decline, rage posting, and detachment from reality become harder to disguise. Mary Trump traces how decades of family enabling, transactional loyalty, and unchecked power have led to a presidency she believes no longer fears consequences at home or abroad. Hosted on Acast. See acast.com/privacy for more information. Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices

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0:00.0

The Trump regime is going to continue to double down on its tactics.

0:06.0

It's going to become increasingly violent, and nobody in the executive branch, particularly not Donald, is going to do anything to raid them in.

0:15.0

And we see also how the very first instinct of every single person in charge, from Donald to Nome,

0:24.6

to Homan to Bovino, is to attack and defame the victims of the crimes perpetrated against

0:32.9

them by federal agencies.

0:37.4

I'm Sarah Ewell-Wyce, political reporter for The Daily Beast. by federal agencies.

0:41.3

I'm Sarah Ewell-Wise, political reporter for The Daily Beast.

0:46.6

I'm filling in today for Joanna Coles, who is the host of The Daily Beast podcast.

0:51.0

I'm very grateful to be taking this opportunity while she's out of town. Today on the podcast, I interview Mary Trump. She is a renowned author, a clinical

0:57.7

psychologist, and also the writer of the substack, The Good in Us. Today on the podcast, we

1:03.7

discussed the horrific shooting in Minnesota and President Donald Trump and his administration's

1:09.2

response. We also talk about the Trump family and their relationship with military service after

1:15.6

President Donald Trump disparaged NATO troops on the world stage.

1:20.5

We also got into President Trump's relationship with his mother after he fondly remembered

1:26.1

walking with her past what he called an insane asylum

1:29.0

as he looked back on his life during a press conference.

1:34.7

Mary Trump, thank you so much for joining me. We are coming at this today at a time of very deep

1:40.6

tensions in the United States. The country does feel like it's at a bit of a breaking point with the latest killing by

1:46.8

ice of Alex Priddy, that ICU nurse who worked at the VA in Minneapolis.

1:52.7

The president really does thrive in chaos.

1:55.8

And we are seeing that chaos play out on the streets of the United States. But I want to ask you what you fear about how it is playing out in this moment.

2:06.5

Well, first of all, Sarah, it's great to be here with you.

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