And I'll go on record saying when you're dealing with overseeing kids, little children,

if somebody's not willing to take a test and a church doesn't want to do that, you have to ask why.

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Everybody, welcome to another edition of the victim

marks show my guest today is pastor Shane Eitlman he is a pastor in the land of

california which uh should come with hazard pay for all men and ministry and women.

But we met through a turning point USA event, the passes conference.

And it's been good to see your, I've followed your stuff on social media, on Instagram.

And tell me, first of all and tell me first of all tell me what challenges do you mainly face

as a pastor in California not with the government but just with people well we're actually

in Los Angeles County too so oh my goodness I'm in Los Angeles County, too.

Oh, my goodness.

I'm in Los Angeles County, Northern.

It's called Northern Los Angeles County, the tip of L.A. County.

So we've got Gascon as our DA and.

Oh, my goodness.

Oh, wow. Yeah, lots of stuff.

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