Real Life Consequences
Main Justice
MS NOW, Andrew Weissmann, Mary McCord
4.7 • 6.8K Ratings
🗓️ 17 September 2025
⏱️ 58 minutes
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| 0:00.0 | Hello, and welcome back to Maine Justice. |
| 0:11.3 | It is Tuesday morning, September 16th. |
| 0:14.5 | Oh, my God, I cannot believe it is mid-September. |
| 0:18.0 | Well, I've already started a discussion, and as you all know, I'm Andrew Weissman, |
| 0:22.6 | and that person who has not responded is the wonderful Mary McCord. Hi, Mary. Good morning, |
| 0:28.1 | Andrew. I can hardly believe it's mid-September as well, but I am definitely appreciating |
| 0:32.6 | temperatures that are in the 60s and low 70s instead of in 80s and 90s. You know, it's so funny, given like what we're about to talk about, this is like the calm part of the podcast where it's like a touch of normalcy. Yes. My heart rate's not elevated. Exactly. I'll get there, as you know, and you'll bring it down. We do have a special thing, which, you know, Mary, I actually, |
| 0:55.6 | I was describing this to someone. We rarely have guests, and it's probably worth telling |
| 1:01.3 | people what we do. We really try to find when we don't have as in-depth expertise, or there's |
| 1:09.1 | something that that person has done that's really interesting. |
| 1:12.5 | We bring them on and it's not necessarily a name that you've ever heard of and we really |
| 1:16.6 | try and find a person with deep knowledge. So what's on our dance card and who is our guest? |
| 1:22.4 | Yeah, we will start by talking about the Charlie Kirk shooting last week, a really horrible and tragic murder. |
| 1:30.6 | Murder. |
| 1:31.2 | And the various ramifications of that. |
| 1:33.9 | I mean, it's definitely going to be charged in state court. |
| 1:35.8 | Probably will not be charged in federal court. |
| 1:37.9 | We'll talk about why. |
| 1:38.8 | And we'll talk a little bit about how the FBI responded to this in particular, how the director, Keshe Patel, responded to this. |
| 1:45.9 | And we'll fold into that a lawsuit that I swore we had talked about last week because last week seems like |
| 1:51.3 | eight years ago, but we did not talk about last week because it hadn't happened yet last week. |
| 1:55.5 | That is the lawsuit by three extremely high-level FBI agents, including one who had been the acting director |
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