Welcome to another edition of Real Conversations.

Chase Perman Ben Craddock here with you today and a great guest, Ryan Kane,

joining us, CEO of Hope Desk, an expert in the mental health space and a number of other topics that we'll

discuss here today. Thanks to Ben for helping us set this up. And Ryan, thanks for being with us,

spending a little time. Now on this Sunday, I apologize. We originally had this thing scheduled

for Friday, and Lane Kiffin screwed that up, or at least I thought Lane Kiffin was going to screw that up when we did postpone.

So I know it's in the middle of your weekend.

Thanks for the time.

And how's the weekend going?

Man, thanks for having me.

It's going well.

I'm getting geared up for Thanksgiving Day.

Families in town and starting to get busy.

Are you a big Thanksgiving guy?

Is that an underrated, overrated holiday?

Where do you fall on the Thanksgiving?

Food-wise, I think it's overrated a little bit.

But I think it's the most fun for our family,

a little bit more fun than Christmas.

It seems to be a little more

concentrated and the whole crew come we do it a little different we do our family on Saturday

and that way everybody can go with the in-laws and do do the Thanksgiving Day separate and then

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