Coming up on the Dr. John Deloney show.

This is what you did for me.

Presence over platitudes.

I need to learn better platitudes.

Two blusts to learn better. I'm pretty terrible. My God needed another angel, Chris.

Someone came up to me.

No, they didn't. Well, you know, brother, he moves in mysterious ways and I said God didn't say that Bono said that.

What up what up this is John with the Dr. John Deloney show. I'm so grateful that you are with us.

We're talking to real people who are going through just heart stuff.

The world's gotten chaotic. We have an election coming up we're back to

school we've got fall we've got travel plans coming up we've got money issues we got

work at everything feels chaotic and man a few weeks ago I flew back to

Texas for a buddy's mom's funeral. It was a tough, beautiful, sad, but uplifting time with friends and family people haven't seen in years and years and years.

And it reminded me that underneath all of the madness and the headlines life is

just going on and when life is just going on that means we're all dealing with

hard stuff and on today's show, a friend of mine and Chris Cook, who recently

wrote a book called Healing What You Can't Erase. I was honored to write the forward of the book.

It's a book on his journey and study into grief. He has a

incredibly successful podcast called Wynne Today with Christopher Cook.

This book is a very vulnerable exploration and if you've ever wondered what is it like when Deloni sits with somebody for an hour and

really unpacks grief and what's the next right thing.

This is it. This is me sitting with a friend who gets very, very raw and very open and he's pretty courageous.

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