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By going to Davos, 1992, July, very impressed, clearly, as he was in South Africa by the voice

of monopoly capital, I'm not saying he bows down to it, but he is certainly impressed

in terms of what they're able to do and comes back from Davos and says that for growth

of the economy we've got to look to the private sector and he says that it's clear that if

we go for radical socialist approach, he uses the term nationalization, we're not going

to get the foreign investment from the capitalist world that we need to make the country run

and to overcome our poverty.

So it's a total change and this is where I say our fosty impact or bargain stems from.

It stems not just from Mandela who is making this announcement and is following this through,

Joe Slovo, Ronnie Cazroll, the left wing of the ANC which was predominant, our whole

communist party, there's no real debate or argument about this.

Mandela really is the icon which he shouldn't have been for his fellow revolutionaries.

He's a leader amongst other leaders, he's always about a collective, but Mandela is very

firm on a course of approach once he's made up his mind and I note that people like Joe

and others actually go along with him, now the reason being that the political kingdom

is coming close and of course this is a very big issue.

We could have had a civil war at the time, they could have been enormous bloodshed, there

was tremendous threats from the third force, the police, the soldiers operating undercover

and with all sort of right wing elements from the Afrikan extremists and we were very concerned.

Would we be able to move through that situation smoothly and get to a democratic election

and form a government based on the people's will?

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