Hi, I'm Ali Jackson Jolly.

I'm here with Wyvon Hutchinson.

She is the CEO of ReadySet and her new platform, Super Essence,

both of which are aimed at helping corporations create more inclusive, supported workforces.

In this capacity, she has worked with the likes of Google, Amazon, and Salesforce.

Wevon, welcome and thanks for being here with us.

Thank you for having me.

Yeah, so as we head into 2025 with newly elected President Trump,

the President-elect has been very vocal

in his plan to wage war on DEI departments

across the federal government.

Yeah.

I'm curious, how do you think this will impact corporate DEI?

Thinking ahead to what's gonna happen with Trump and DEI, I get asked this all the time.

And I think, you know, we have to be realistic about it.

As much to do whatever is in their power to discourage organizations from having DEI programs,

discourage the use of the language around DEI,

communicate that they're focusing on things like reverse discrimination,

and directing their federal agencies to do the same.

But the question really is, like, what does this mean in practice?

And I think so often we get caught up in the language of DEI. And, you know, in some ways,

that's intentional, right? So when we talk about anti-DEI policies, anti-WOPE policies,

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