Innovating through technology is a form of survival, you know, to see and be seen, to build community.

There Are No Girls on the Internet is a production of IHeart Radio and Unbossed Creative.

I'm Bridget Todd, and this is there are no girls on the internet.

One of the biggest questions that I'm grappling with these days when it comes to social media is where are we all going next?

The entire social media landscape is shifting. Facebook feels less and less relevant by the day.

I mean, is anybody even still on threads?

And Twitter is, well, Twitter.

When I scroll Twitter these days,

it's clear just how much these platforms are not built for us,

with us and mind. It honestly just does not feel good to show up there

anymore. And as Twitter's policies get more and more hostile, more and more people like me are jumping

ship. And in this time where we're all searching for what's next, a black-owned alternative that

tries to put more power in the hands of the people who use their platform might just be the next big thing.

Enter Spill. Spill is a meme-forward, highly visual social media platform where users post spills, as in spilling the team.

The team behind Spill is clear that they want it to be a place where black and brown

folks and other traditionally marginalized identities can feel safe showing up, but the platform is for

everybody. And for Kenyaparam, building better and safer technologies is a kind of community

love language. My name is Kenya Parham, and I serve as the global vice president for

community and partnerships at Spill. For Kenya, technology is just another in a long career of

advocating for traditionally marginalized communities. So I'm very excited about Spill. I'm very excited

to talk about Spill, but if it's okay, I would love to start with you, Kenya.

Like, how did you get your start in technology?

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