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The Brian Lehrer Show

Reading the Indictment of Donald Trump

The Brian Lehrer Show

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4.61.5K Ratings

🗓️ 4 August 2023

⏱️ 85 minutes

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Summary

Donald Trump has been indicted in Department of Justice special counsel Jack Smith's probe into the former president's 2020 election interference and Jan. 6, 2021. WNYC host Tiffany Hanssen, Kai Wright, host of WNYC's Notes from America; Micah Loewinger, correspondent for WNYC's On the Media; Elie Mystal, justice correspondent for The Nation, host of its new podcast Contempt of Court with Elie Mystal and the author of Allow Me to Retort: A Black Guy’s Guide to the Constitution (The New Press, 2022); and Jill Wine-Banks, MSNBC legal analyst, former Watergate special prosecutor, co-host of the podcasts #Sistersinlaw and IGenPolitics and the author of The Watergate Girl: My Fight for Truth and Justice Against a Criminal President (Henry Holt and Co., 2020), take turns reading from the document.

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0:00.0

This week when special counsel Jack Smith announced the indictment of Donald Trump on conspiring

0:22.2

to defraud the United States and disenfranchised voters in the 2020 election, he made a point

0:28.4

to say this.

0:30.0

The indictment was issued by a grand jury of citizens here in the District of Columbia,

0:35.0

and it sets forth the crimes charged in detail. I encourage everyone to read it in full.

0:42.0

I encourage everyone to read it in full. Special counsel Smith also made sure to remind everyone

0:49.8

of this. My must emphasize that the indictment is only an allegation and that the defendant

0:56.5

must be presumed innocent until proving guilty beyond a reasonable doubt in a court of law.

1:03.9

Special counsel Jack Smith on Tuesday. So in the spirit of that presumption and of the

1:09.6

Constitution in one of the most consequential cases that our democracy could ever see,

1:15.3

this is a special edition of the Brian Lair show today. As we take on Jack Smith's plea to all

1:20.9

Americans, again he encouraged everyone to read the indictment in full. Now we don't have time in

1:26.8

this two-hour show for every word, but what we can do is read a lot of it, letting you hear many of

1:32.5

the details of the evidence that the special counsel wants us to judge for ourselves. We will also

1:38.4

save some time at the end of the show for some calls from you to say what jumped out at you from

1:43.6

hearing the text that you may not have realized just from the news reports over the last few days.

1:49.6

And I won't subject you to the torture of hearing just me read for nearly two hours. We're not

1:55.8

that mean around here. So we have five guest readers lined up who've each agreed to take different

2:01.9

sections of the indictment to present as we go. But I will start with the opening section of the 45

2:08.3

page document. It is simply called introduction and here we go. Introduction, paragraph one.

2:16.4

The defendant, Donald J. Trump, was the 45th president of the United States and a candidate for

2:21.7

reelection in 2020. The defendant lost the 2020 presidential election. Paragraph two.

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