This is Sarah from the Left and welcome to another episode of Pant suit Politics.

Today Beth is off and I am here with Ann Bogle, host of the podcast What Should I Read Next,

and the author of a new book Reading People How Seeing the World Through the Lens of

Personality Changes Everything, and has been on our podcast before and I've been on

her podcast, but we are so happy to have you back, Ann.

It is my pleasure. Thank you for having me.

And I was so excited to read this book, one because I'm a personality junkie,

and two, to have you on the podcast because we just had a really fascinating conversation

on the pod about, personally, specifically introvert extrovert, and how that plays out with

politicians, which are so interested to hear your thoughts on. And tell us a little bit about the

book. I think it's so great how you walk through all the different personality tell us and

build them on top of each other. And is introvert extrovert the first one you talk about?

Yes it is. I think it's like that a long time ago.

I think that's the very first one in the book. And that's because in the book I go through seven

popular personality frameworks and give like a little primer on each and then tons and tons of

stories about what that looks like in real life because that's how you really understand it.

But I started with introversion extroversion because like there's one clinical psychologist who

calls that the north and south of temperament. Like that's the foundation. It determines so much

about how you see the world and interact with it and the people around you. So we started there.

And I loved that conversation on the podcast by the way. Yeah it was so interesting. Right so

I think that the popular conception and I think this is true of celebrities and politicians is that

they are all extroverts. But I do not think that is true. Being as a person who lived in Washington

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