Hello and welcome to the Punch Bowl News Readback podcast. I'm your host,

congressional reporter Max Cohen, and today I'm joined by Ben Brody, who is our tech reporter

and is fresh off the tech quarterly, which was in every subscriber's inbox earlier this week.

Ben, how you doing?

Tired, but very glad to have that done. That was a fun edition.

It was. It was jam-packed. Very exciting. It was helmed by Diego's really great interview with Jensen Wong, the NVIDIA CEO, which if you have not already read, definitely give that

a read. But I want to start off asking you, Ben, about your story in the quarterly, which if you have not already read, definitely give that a read. But I want to

start off asking you, Ben, about your story in the quarterly, which is looking at the emerging

AI framework and its chances of passage in the House. So let's start off with the negative

view, the bear view of what might happen here. House Democrats, as you write, don't really feel compelled to come

to the table because they say, if we're going to win the majority in the fall, why should we make a

deal which might not be as favorable? Expand on that and tell me more about why you don't think

it won't pass before we say why it may pass. Yeah, I mean, I'm always happy to be pessimistic

about Congress. That's super easy from my position. Democrats, I think, so the White House framework

focused on kids protections, some stuff around censorship, some stuff around data centers,

and Democrats, I think,

don't necessarily think that they're in a particular rush to help Republicans pass anything

here. But they also, I think, haven't even really agreed to the terms of that debate.

Their response is like, where's workers? Where are kids protections that

let states, you know, really protect consumers more than we think Republicans are? Where's

transparency? Where's digging into really scary futuristic models? Where's privacy? Where's civil rights?

I mean, the list just goes on and on and on.

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