It's time to take command with former NFL tight end, Logan Paulson, and former commander's beat reporter Craig Hoffman.

What's up? What's happening? Welcome in. It's the Take Command podcast, Logan Paulson there.

Craig Hoffman here, here, a hotel room somewhere in Los Angeles, an unidentified hotel room in Los Angeles,

California, Logan. Yeah, I mean, you're on vacation, living your best life, but you're still grinding it out, and I appreciate that about you. Just always putting the work in. I'm just trying to, I'm just trying to honor like a Logan Paulson-esque work ethic, you know, you guys just know him for getting after it, no days off.

So I'm just, I'm leaning in.

Like, this show is,

it's me and you, buddy.

And, um,

you know,

I got to lean into that.

So that's, guy just known for getting after it, no days off. So I'm just, I'm leaning in. Like, this show is

me and you, buddy. And, um, you know, I got to lean into that. So that's, that's what we're doing out here in California. We're talking about the commanders. Uh, so that, that does mean, uh, that we're going to have to talk about this Terry McClaren situation. The other thing we're going to do on the show today after we talk about Terry here off the top is we're going to do something I did on the radio

last year, Logan, which was I ranked the top 10 most important commanders. We did it over the course of like 10 days. You and I were going to do an express version. We're going to do it in 30 minutes. So we have made our list. We will go from, we decided we're a top

down podcast. So we will start at one. You'll never guess who that is. And then go on down.

So with that said, though, I was sitting at this very desk, Logan, yesterday with not a lot

to do early in the morning West Coast time. And on my phone, the free Odyssey app,

bosses would be happy on that one,

I got a little note.

It's like Terry McClart talking to the media.

And I was like, oh, I got nothing for a little bit.

Let me listen on in.

And what I heard was a guy who sounded pretty upset and pretty hurt.

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