Hey everyone welcome once again to the Conversations that Matter podcast. I am your

host John Harris as always here for another exciting, and beneficial conversation with a first-time guest

we have Matthew Pearson with us. How you doing Matthew?

I'm doing good, John. How are you doing today?

Doing very well.

I think you're are probably third Zoomer,

I'm trying to think.

Third Zoomer, who was the first?

I know Turnip Seed was one of them.

Yeah, right.

Well, I got to meet him a few days ago.

That was fun.

Oh, did you?

Yeah, I've never met in person.

So, there's an, I can't remember his name.

I think I had someone on months or now it might be over a year ago to talk about

They had I think they were like a pride rally or something and they were I if I remember correctly they were attacked I can't remember the details of it even that well I just know that the guy I was interviewing was a

zumer I'm pretty sure got you well I'm happy to be your your third z. I'm happy to help you become culture on zumber culture

if you want to endure that.

That's what we're going to talk about.

And we were having a conversation, Matthew and I,

a few weeks ago about this. And Matthew had some really interesting things to say about

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