Reaching out After World War Two
Witness History
BBC
4.5 • 1.6K Ratings
🗓️ 12 January 2018
⏱️ 9 minutes
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Summary
German children from Dusseldorf were invited to stay in the English town of Reading shortly after WW2 had ended. Hear how two girls became lifelong friends as a result. Chris Browning has been hearing from June Whitcombe and Gretel Rieber about their memories of that time, and about the local mayor, Phoebe Cusden, who single-handedly organised the exchange.
(Photo: June (L) and Gretel (R) in the 1940s. Courtesy of June Whitcombe)
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| 0:35.0 | history told by the people who were there. |
| 0:38.0 | I'm Chris Browning, and today we're going back 70 years to post-war Europe when one woman started trying to |
| 0:44.7 | rebuild the relationship between the warring nations, Germany and Britain and in the |
| 0:49.6 | process two little girls became unlikely friends. |
| 0:54.0 | I haven't met any German people. |
| 0:57.0 | I haven't met any German people and when I first saw Gretel I was quite |
| 1:05.7 | disappointed because she looked quite normal. She had thought she'd probably |
| 1:09.8 | have at least you know horns and maybe two heads. |
| 1:14.0 | She has repeated that so often that I will never forget that sentence. |
| 1:20.0 | That's June and Gretel, and they grew up at war. |
| 1:25.0 | For four years in the 1940s, planes took off from the airfield near June's house in Redding in the south of England, flew across the English channel and dropped bombs on Gretel's |
| 1:36.3 | city of Dusseldorf in northwest Germany. |
| 1:42.1 | This was the soundtrack to Gretel's childhood. |
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