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Hey, everyone, Alex San Felipeo here.

Super excited to be back with you for the state of podcasting, which we do every quarter.

And I'm really excited with my guest today.

I'm excited that I have Tom Webster joining me, who is one of the partners of Sounds Profitable.

I'll share more about that in a moment.

But real quick, Tom, today we're going to do something a little bit different with the state of podcasting. But first and foremost, welcome. So glad you're

here. Thanks. Yeah. And I'm glad you're going to do something different because I think that's part of

keeping the podcast fresh, right? So you never know. You got to try. You got to iterate.

For sure. And you know, I was thinking back to some previous state of podcasting conversations I've had with other

experts in the industry. And we've covered things like AI before it came out, cryptocurrency before,

like when Value for Value was coming into play, video podcasting before YouTube, right?

And although you could still go back and listen to those and are still somewhat evergreen,

what we're going to talk about today is like probably the most evergreen topic in podcasting. Now, real quick, if you're like, oh, Alex, but I wanted to hear like the data,

the research, right? I'm going to give you a resource. It's actually Tom's resource. If you go to

sounds profitable.com forward slash research, there's all kinds of things. It's always getting

updated. It will be Evergreen because they're always doing new things. And it is some of the best reporting I've ever seen in podcasting. So Tom, first and foremost, thank you for that. I really appreciate what you guys make

available to us as indie podcasters. Yeah, I mean, that's our mission. I mean, you know, we are

serving as the trade organization for the industry. And, you know, companies in the space. But, you know, my heart, as it always has been,

is also with the Indies. So anything that we are going to produce, you know, it may have a variety

of sponsors on it, but we provide it for free. We don't ask people to sign up for anything.

Our goal is to grow the space and to enable careers. Yeah. And I respect that you've been

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