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I'll use a phrase that it's not a cliche,

but it's appropriate.

White silence leads to black rage.

Well, we all need to consider talking more,

learning more and looking for opportunities

to show God's love and care for all people.

We're gonna talk about that today on focusonthefamily.

As Dr. David Ireland joins us again.

Your host is focuspresident and author Jim Daily

and I'm John Fulley.

John, we had an excellent conversation last time

with David and I think his pastor's heart

was on display during our discussion.

Some people may have been uncomfortable with it.

We're talking about racial issues

and that's a good thing to be open and honest

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