Marshall here, welcome back to the realignment.

Today's episode is a part of the realignment,

today's episode is a part of the realignment's

RE something interesting series where I find books, podcasts, and other interesting ideas

that folks should check out. Speaking today with the co-host of the Nationly Podcast, Sarah

said Wani, who is a professor of politics at Penoma, who also is

deeply involved in redistricting and other realignment related issues and her co-host

Juan Ramirez who is an independent journalist. The Nation League podcast is all about the big

topics that we are particularly interested in as realignment

listeners including of course race, gender, and how these different factors

along with the overlaying layer of class are shifting during this period in American politics.

In this conversation, we specifically talk about racial issues,

or also focusing on the debates throughout immigration, and the very language you use to describe

these phenomenon. If you enjoy this conversation definitely check out the

Nationly podcast which is available in the show notes as well.

Hope you all enjoy the conversation and a huge thank you to the Foundation for American Innovation

supporting the work of this podcast.

Juan and Sarah welcome to the realignment. Thanks so much for having you.

Of course, yeah, I'm pumped to chat with the two of you. You're doing a really interesting

podcasting project focused on not only the swing states that are gonna matter, but also a bunch of really

interesting narratives that are gonna to define this election.

So before we get in, let's start with the backgrounds and the focus areas that you're sort of bringing to the space.

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