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RE: Something Interesting | Garrett M. Graff on What the Government Really Knows About UFOs, UAPs, and the Case for Extraterrestrial Life

The Realignment

The Realignment

Saager Enjeti, Technology, Policy, News, Marshall Kosloff, International Relations, Politics, News Commentary, Public Policy, U.s. Politics, National Security, Economics

4.82.5K Ratings

🗓️ 18 November 2023

⏱️ 53 minutes

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Summary

Welcome to RE: Something Interesting, The Realignment's new Saturday podcast focused on more casual conversations about American culture and society with people who've written, recorded, or thought about something worth diving into. Today's guest is Garrett M. Graff, a Pulitzer Prize Finalist and author of UFO: The Inside Story of the US Government's Search for Alien Life Here--And Out There. Marshall and Garrett discuss the history of the UFO and UAP phenomenons, what the government does (and doesn't) know about the topic, and the broader likelihood of whether or not extraterrestrial life has visited Earth.

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0:00.0

Marshall here, welcome to the second episode of a new Saturday

0:04.0

podcast, Ari something interesting, dropped on the realignment feed.

0:08.6

In case you missed last week's debut episode with Max Marshall, which, by the way, I highly recommend you check out about

0:16.1

fraternities, drug culture and crime.

0:18.8

Ari something interesting is my new venue for exploring interesting topics outside the realignment's traditional focus on

0:24.2

politics and policy.

0:25.9

Today I'm speaking with Garrett M. Graf, a peer would surprise analyst for his recent work

0:30.5

on Watergate and New History. Garrett has a new book out, UFO, the inside story of the

0:36.5

U.S. government search for alien life here and out there.

0:40.1

Regardless of where you come down on the topic, this conversation and Garrett's book is a great starting point.

0:45.4

You can purchase UFO and last week's among the bros by Max Marshall at the Realignments Bookshop. We've got a link below. It helps support

0:56.4

the show and independent booksellers as well. And definitely write in with any comments

1:01.6

or feedback on this new format to

1:04.4

realignment pod at gMO.com hope you all enjoy the conversation.

1:08.8

Garrett graph welcome to Ari something interesting.

1:14.3

Thank you so much for having me.

1:16.3

I'm so excited to speak with you.

1:18.3

Your last book was about Watergate.

1:21.4

I was going to kind of say, it's so surprising you're writing this

1:23.9

this history of Watergate and the 70s this like epic moment in our history then you're going to do

1:29.3

UFO books but for me there's a very obvious narrative tie between Watergate, conspiracy, suspicion of government, and the underlying themes of when you start delving into the UAP, U of O discourse.

1:43.0

So that's kind of like my thinking out loud,

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